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arma model

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 1:27 am
by elhamfa
hi.
I came across a problem and I just want to khow that how can I use "correlogram" in eviews to choose a best AR , MA or ARMA model and their best LAGs?

Re: arma model

Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 4:33 am
by trubador
Just in the same way as you use ACF and PACF statistics/plots...

Re: arma model

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:15 am
by stasibab
Hello,

I am trying to use arma model to make an out-of-sample forecast. To be exact I want to specify the best arma model!

I have in-sample 1781 observations and out-of-sample 514 (total 2295)

can you help me on how to do it in EViews?

thank you

Re: arma model

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:59 am
by stasibab
I would like to ask if about the structure of the arma model

using least squares and 'sample' my dependent variable the structure for estimating different arma models

sample c ar(1) ma(1) ar(3) ma(3) : is this a correct structure?
sample c ar(1) ar(3) ma(1) ma(3) : is this the same as the above?
sample c ar(3) ma(3) ar(1) ma(1) : is this correct or have the ar to be in increasing order?

Thank you

Re: arma model

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:18 pm
by startz
The order doesn't matter. But it's unusual to have MA(3) or AR(3) without having MA(2) and AR(2).

Re: arma model

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:23 pm
by stasibab
The order doesn't matter. But it's unusual to have MA(3) or AR(3) without having MA(2) and AR(2).
So what do you mean? you have to always have in order like 1 2 3...

Re: arma model

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:31 pm
by startz
The order doesn't matter. But it's unusual to have MA(3) or AR(3) without having MA(2) and AR(2).
So what do you mean? you have to always have in order like 1 2 3...
You don't have to have them in order, but you probably should include all the intermediate orders.

Re: arma model

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:54 pm
by stasibab
Thanx a lot!!

Re: arma model

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:08 pm
by stasibab
Thanx a lot!!
Sorry to bother you again but if the structure does not matter how come that when I run
sample c AR(5) AR(4) AR(9) AR(1) MA(5) MA(4) MA(9) MA(1)

AND

sample c AR(1) AR(4) AR(5) AR(9) MA(1) MA(4) MA(5) MA(9)

gives me a different results and makes the coefficients not significant?

Re: arma model

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:29 pm
by stasibab
Sorry to bother you again but if the structure does not matter how come that when I run
sample c AR(5) AR(4) AR(9) AR(1) MA(5) MA(4) MA(9) MA(1)

AND

sample c AR(1) AR(4) AR(5) AR(9) MA(1) MA(4) MA(5) MA(9)

gives me a different results and makes the coefficients not significant?
Significant i mean the probabilities of the coefficients to be under 0,05. This must be that way in order to have a good forecast.

Re: arma model

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:44 pm
by EViews Glenn
Hard to say without seeing the workfile.

Re: arma model

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:56 pm
by stasibab
Hello,

I am trying to use arma model to make an out-of-sample forecast. To be exact I want to specify the best arma model!

I have in-sample 1781 observations and out-of-sample 514 (total 2295)

can you help me on how to do it in EViews?

thank you
Sorry I had it uploaded before!

I use the 1781 observations for estimation and 2295 for the forecast

Re: arma model

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:57 pm
by stasibab
This is it

Re: arma model

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:59 pm
by startz
Sorry to bother you again but if the structure does not matter how come that when I run
sample c AR(5) AR(4) AR(9) AR(1) MA(5) MA(4) MA(9) MA(1)

AND

sample c AR(1) AR(4) AR(5) AR(9) MA(1) MA(4) MA(5) MA(9)

gives me a different results and makes the coefficients not significant?
Significant i mean the probabilities of the coefficients to be under 0,05. This must be that way in order to have a good forecast.
You might want to post a picture of your output. You should be getting the same results.

Re: arma model

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:16 pm
by stasibab
Ok now I am sending u the two tries.