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AR term of dY
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:11 pm
by TomL
Hi,
I have managed to confuse myself regarding the AR term in EViews. I have read an earlier thread, but I just want to make sure that I've got this right.
Regression: D(LiborSpread) = Alpha + Beta1*D(CDS) + Beta2*LiquidityProxy + AR(1) + e
Is the AR(1) a lag of the difference of the dependent variable? I am confused because substituting AR(1) for D(Y(-1)) yields different results.
Thanks,
Tom
Re: AR term of dY
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:38 pm
by EViews Gareth
AR(1) is a lag of the error term.
i.e. in an equation of
then
and so with an AR term you get
Re: AR term of dY
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:54 pm
by TomL
Isn't the lag of the error term MA(1)? And the lag of the dependent variable AR(1)?
Re: AR term of dY
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:03 pm
by startz
Isn't the lag of the error term MA(1)? And the lag of the dependent variable AR(1)?
No. Let me repeat what Gareth said slightly differently. If we we have the EViews equation
then the equations are
y=c(1)*x + e
e = c(2)*e(-1) + eta
Alternatively, one can write
(y-c(2)*y(-1)) = c(1)*(x-x(-1)) + eta
Re: AR term of dY
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:43 am
by TomL
I'm even more confused now. I understand that AR-terms can be substituted by lags of the error term, but AR terms are still (by definition) lags of the dependent variable.
In my equation I have not taken the difference of the liquidity proxy, so by rewriting it you won't end up with (y-c(2)*y(-1)) = c(1)*(x-x(-1)) + eta.
This is from the topic "ARIMA vs MA with lagged dependent variable", which is basically the same question as I have.
This is what startz wrote:
"There's some confusion here. Any pure ARMA(p,q) model is the same in EViews whether specified with AR terms or lags of the dependent variable. (There can be very small coefficient differences due to numerical issues.) Perhaps you should post more specifically what you're trying."
My question is: is the AR term in EViews still valid if the estimation is written with difference operators? Equation: D(Y) C X AR(1)
Or would it only be correct if the equation was written like DY C X AR(1)? [note that the dependent variable is now DY and not D(Y)]
Thanks for the help guys,
Tom
Re: AR term of dY
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:11 am
by trubador
You can easily write these two equations in EViews and estimate to see if they yield the same output...
Re: AR term of dY
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:07 am
by EViews Gareth
When Startz wrote:
"There's some confusion here. Any pure ARMA(p,q) model is the same in EViews whether specified with AR terms or lags of the dependent variable.
He specifically mentioned a pure ARMA model. You have independent variables in your equation, so what he wrote doesn't apply. Since the error term is now a function of the X variables too, an AR model is now a function of both the lagged values of the dependent variable and the independent variable.
Re: AR term of dY
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:39 am
by TomL
Thanks for the help. I've got my answer.