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x13 with no seasonal adj after tramo

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:16 am
by cgalindito
Hi...

Using x13 .. on Eviews 9.5.

Within the GUI it is indeed possible to use the dialogs to (say) perform: a) model selection via tramo, with b) a user regressor AND c) have *NO seasonal adjustment* performed...However, it is NOT possible to replicate the correct specs via command line.

Although not documented in your help files, it looks like the following should work...

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i001.x13(arima, smpl="2009M12 2016M09") @tramo(maxdiff="(2,1)", maxorder="(2,1)") @reg(userregs="gp1", aictest="user")
But it actually does not work....*because the following is automatically (wrongly) appended to the x13 spec text file*

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x11{ save = (d11) }
In other words, the entire spec generated by the code will render:

series{
2. title = "I001"
3. start = 2009.12
4. modelspan = (2009.12, 2016.09)
5. name = "I001"
6. file = "C:\Users\xxx\AppData\ev_temp\EVX13TMP.DAT"
7. decimals = 1
8. }
9. automdl{
10. maxdiff = (2 1)
11. maxorder = (2,1)
12. mixed = yes
13. fcstlim = 15
14. ljungboxlimit = 0.95
15. checkmu = yes
16. acceptdefault = no
17. }
18. regression{
19. user = (gp1)
20. file = "C:\Users\xxx\AppData\ev_temp\EVX13TMP.VAR"
21. format = "datevalue"
22. aictest = (user)
23. }
...
28. x11{
29. save = (d11)
30. }
And clearly, lines 28 onwards are wrong.

Could you please advise a workaround to perform the desired action (in a nutshell, no seasonal adjustment after tramo) ?

Re: x13 with no seasonal adj after tramo

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:46 am
by EViews Gareth
There is an undocumented option "noseas" that tells X-13 to not do seasonal adjustment.

Currently it doesn't quite work though since even with that option, EViews tries to read the D11 series back in. We'll get that issue fixed.

Re: x13 with no seasonal adj after tramo

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:50 am
by cgalindito
Thank you Gareth.
Looking forward to the fix..
In the meantime... is it possible to feed a correct x13 spec file into eviews, in any other way?

Re: x13 with no seasonal adj after tramo

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:51 am
by EViews Gareth
What are you trying to do? What's the end goal?

Re: x13 with no seasonal adj after tramo

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:01 pm
by cgalindito
Thank you Gareth.
The goal is not seasonal adjustment. I could fetch the output series that I may be interested on (for example accessing certain types of outliers) directly from the text output of x13.. without having to have eviews trying to retrieve automatically a particular series (e.g, d11)....d11 is by construction not needed/generated in this context.

Re: x13 with no seasonal adj after tramo

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:28 pm
by EViews Gareth
You're probably out of luck then.