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elhamfa
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arma model

Postby elhamfa » Mon May 30, 2011 1:27 am

hi.
I came across a problem and I just want to khow that how can I use "correlogram" in eviews to choose a best AR , MA or ARMA model and their best LAGs?

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Re: arma model

Postby trubador » Mon May 30, 2011 4:33 am

Just in the same way as you use ACF and PACF statistics/plots...

stasibab
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Re: arma model

Postby stasibab » Tue May 31, 2011 5:15 am

Hello,

I am trying to use arma model to make an out-of-sample forecast. To be exact I want to specify the best arma model!

I have in-sample 1781 observations and out-of-sample 514 (total 2295)

can you help me on how to do it in EViews?

thank you
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stasibab
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Re: arma model

Postby stasibab » Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:59 am

I would like to ask if about the structure of the arma model

using least squares and 'sample' my dependent variable the structure for estimating different arma models

sample c ar(1) ma(1) ar(3) ma(3) : is this a correct structure?
sample c ar(1) ar(3) ma(1) ma(3) : is this the same as the above?
sample c ar(3) ma(3) ar(1) ma(1) : is this correct or have the ar to be in increasing order?

Thank you

startz
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Re: arma model

Postby startz » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:18 pm

The order doesn't matter. But it's unusual to have MA(3) or AR(3) without having MA(2) and AR(2).

stasibab
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Re: arma model

Postby stasibab » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:23 pm

The order doesn't matter. But it's unusual to have MA(3) or AR(3) without having MA(2) and AR(2).
So what do you mean? you have to always have in order like 1 2 3...

startz
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Re: arma model

Postby startz » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:31 pm

The order doesn't matter. But it's unusual to have MA(3) or AR(3) without having MA(2) and AR(2).
So what do you mean? you have to always have in order like 1 2 3...
You don't have to have them in order, but you probably should include all the intermediate orders.

stasibab
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Re: arma model

Postby stasibab » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:54 pm

Thanx a lot!!

stasibab
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Re: arma model

Postby stasibab » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:08 pm

Thanx a lot!!
Sorry to bother you again but if the structure does not matter how come that when I run
sample c AR(5) AR(4) AR(9) AR(1) MA(5) MA(4) MA(9) MA(1)

AND

sample c AR(1) AR(4) AR(5) AR(9) MA(1) MA(4) MA(5) MA(9)

gives me a different results and makes the coefficients not significant?

stasibab
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Re: arma model

Postby stasibab » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:29 pm

Sorry to bother you again but if the structure does not matter how come that when I run
sample c AR(5) AR(4) AR(9) AR(1) MA(5) MA(4) MA(9) MA(1)

AND

sample c AR(1) AR(4) AR(5) AR(9) MA(1) MA(4) MA(5) MA(9)

gives me a different results and makes the coefficients not significant?
Significant i mean the probabilities of the coefficients to be under 0,05. This must be that way in order to have a good forecast.

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Re: arma model

Postby EViews Glenn » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:44 pm

Hard to say without seeing the workfile.

stasibab
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Re: arma model

Postby stasibab » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:56 pm

Hello,

I am trying to use arma model to make an out-of-sample forecast. To be exact I want to specify the best arma model!

I have in-sample 1781 observations and out-of-sample 514 (total 2295)

can you help me on how to do it in EViews?

thank you
Sorry I had it uploaded before!

I use the 1781 observations for estimation and 2295 for the forecast

stasibab
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Re: arma model

Postby stasibab » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:57 pm

This is it
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startz
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Re: arma model

Postby startz » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:59 pm

Sorry to bother you again but if the structure does not matter how come that when I run
sample c AR(5) AR(4) AR(9) AR(1) MA(5) MA(4) MA(9) MA(1)

AND

sample c AR(1) AR(4) AR(5) AR(9) MA(1) MA(4) MA(5) MA(9)

gives me a different results and makes the coefficients not significant?
Significant i mean the probabilities of the coefficients to be under 0,05. This must be that way in order to have a good forecast.
You might want to post a picture of your output. You should be getting the same results.

stasibab
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Re: arma model

Postby stasibab » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:16 pm

Ok now I am sending u the two tries.
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