Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

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Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby acwong77 » Tue May 17, 2011 4:21 pm

I have 15 series of monthly time series data from 1920-1939 for 15 geographic regions with breaks in the observations (so there are NAs). I am trying to do:
Proc--> Seasonal Adjustment --> Tramo/Seats. It works for ~12/15 of the series, but for about three of the series, I get the error message:

"C:/Users/ANDREW~1/AppData/ev_temp/TRAMO/seats.itr not found on disk"

I have tried searching previous posts for a solution and read the User's Guide I & II, but I haven't found a solution that I could get to work (or understand). Can someone provide a detailed explanation of how to solve this problem? My EViews ability is extremely limited and I haven't had any real formal training with it.

Thank you in advance for your time and assistance.

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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby EViews Gareth » Tue May 17, 2011 4:58 pm

As mentioned in the manual, this error generally means that Tramo failed on your data.
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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby acwong77 » Tue May 17, 2011 5:53 pm

Yes, I saw that in the manual. So what's the solution to this problem?

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Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby EViews Gareth » Tue May 17, 2011 6:50 pm

Unfortunately there is no easy answer. You could try transforming your data somehow and running it through tramo again.
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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby Lon » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:31 am

Hi guys, I need some advice. About 98% of the times I try to seasonally adjust a series using Tramo/seats it does not work. All I get is NA for every observation. What is the reason for this?

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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby EViews Gareth » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:35 am

Hard to say. Unfortunately EViews does not perform Tramo/Seats itself, rather it uses the official (although somewhat outdated) Tramo/Seats routines. When they fail it is impossible to tell why.
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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby Lon » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:19 pm

Thanks Gareth. What other econometric software uses Tramo/seats? Some of my series have very large outliers and Tramo/seats is better for such variables. Any suggestions anybody?

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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby amsm » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:24 am

Hi,

I have been trying to SA through Tramo/seats a group of series. If I write in the command y.tramoseats(save="sa") y for each series, it works. However, when I construct a loop as simple as

subroutine sea_adj_tramo
delete *sa
for %aSer {%aSeriesList}
{%aSer}.tramoseats(save="sa") {%aSer}
next

it delivers the error C:\Users\aandrade\AppData\ev_temp\TRAMO\seats.itr not found on disk in. Could this be generated by the fact that I do not have the TSW software downloaded in my computer? Do you have any other suggestion of what I could try to do?

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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error:

Postby lbenci » Wed May 26, 2021 7:59 am

EViews Gareth wrote:Unfortunately there is no easy answer. You could try transforming your data somehow and running it through tramo again.


Sorry Gareth, this does not seem to me an acceptable answer. When I run TS by selecting the option from the series proc menu, the program does its job correctly. Copying and pasting the same command from the capture window on my routine, it returns me the error in the object. Does this mean that the capture window is not capturing the same command I am running through the proc menu?

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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby EViews Gareth » Wed May 26, 2021 10:11 am

That's possible. If you provide more details we could check.
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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby lbenci » Thu May 27, 2021 3:06 am

You can find the procedure in the three screenshot attached.
Fig11: I open the series, cut the sample in order to eliminate NAN, produce TS from the proc menu
Fig12: the procedure works properly (WF and output file will be attached in the next post); TS makes some adjustments (number of the predicted periods or outlier adjustments); command syntax is taken from the capture window, copied and pasted in the command window
Fig13: I have erased the series outcome of the previous adjustment to make sure they will not conflict with the new procedure; as told, the command is pasted in the command window (I did not include the correction on the command line but I can assure you that even if I did, this does not change the outcome); you can see the output, rather unexpected.

Next post, WF and TS output log (the one that worked).

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby lbenci » Thu May 27, 2021 3:07 am

Here data and output log
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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby EViews Gareth » Thu May 27, 2021 7:50 am

Yep, looks like command capture isn't working quite right.

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cn_imp_price_c.tramoseats(save="sa trd") cn_imp_price_c
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Re: Seasonal Adjustment Error: "TRAMO/seats.itr not found"

Postby uyanikcaner » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:14 am

EViews Gareth wrote:Yep, looks like command capture isn't working quite right.

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cn_imp_price_c.tramoseats(save="sa trd") cn_imp_price_c


Hi everyone. I have the same problem. Could you please help?

The problem that I face occurs when I try to adjust series by using a Eviews program (.prg) file. When I try manually to adjust the series it works properly. However, when I try to use the code written on the program file it shows this error message "C:\Users\cuyanik\AppData\ev_temp\TRAMO\seats.itr not found
on disk in "GDP.TRAMOSEATS(OPT="SEATS=2 MQ=4 LAM=-1
NPRED=4 INIC=3 IDIF=3 IEAST=0 ITRAD=6 IATIP=1 AIO=0
IREG=1", REG="IUSER=-2, NSER=1, ILONG=100",
REGNAME=T9, SAVE="SA") GDP" on line 2."

Eviews released an update which includes an explanation on an issue related TRAMO/SEATS. Altough I updated my Eviews with the last version I fail to use TRAMO/SEATS using the related Eviews code that I obtain from Capture section.

Do you have any plan to release an update for fixing this issue?

Thank you for your response.

Sincerely,

Caner.


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